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My opinion of homosexuality and Islam

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Well I have tried to find a lot of information these past 2 years to make the sense of religion and sexuality.

Since Quran has reference to only to the story of Lut, it was claimed they were acting against their nature( totally forgetting the point that they were rapist)
Anyways, there seem to be interpretation that can support and dispel the logic behind islam against homosexuality.

Now the problem lies which interpretation to accept..........this seems to be difficult. Obviously u cant simply choose something that u might like because in the world in yu want o make Laah(swt) happy then yes u will need to think about your choices of whether to live a gay life( well these were thoughts, I was trying to be unbiased as much as possible).

However I was only trying to accept the explanation behind islam not being against homosexuality, is because of two Quraninc verses...both seem to open a possibility for a life of being gay and living it. i will post them later but I want you guys to have your say for against whatever.

P.s I am soo lazy.....you can find the verse in the topic posted by someone her: it ws something like if you were given a choice to be straight, would you be straight....scroll down and you will find the two verses with one explanations. .

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  • 17-24_f_b_h1_f2
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    i support this idea but i don't know how much i should believe in it because a lot of hadiths were supposedly anti-gay as well. my parents used to read them out to me all the time but some people question their validity that they are just opinions that have been altered and enforced over time passed over as "hadith" vs. what god actually noted. the quran is open to interpretation but its really clear that in general islam is opposed to homosexuality same as the other religions. otherwise homophobia wouldn't be as aggressive and widespread as it is today. it has to be much more than just a cultural thing.

    disclaimer: i am an atheist.

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      OK skyflake, I get you.....so u think it is clear in Islam but u said the Hadith written were not authentic right? So how can u think it is pretty much much clear in Islam? I think u can conduct your research on this area if u can and why do you think its clear..that wud be cool :D

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    Regardless of the stance of most Muslims I think it's important for us to continue communicating the fact that we can easily reconcile our identity with our faiths without having to prove it. It's a personal, spiritual relationship with God that no one should have a right to interfere with or attempt to influence in any way.

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    I think that people improperly assume that the main problem with Sodom and Gomorrah was that homosexual relations transpired there. Sodom and Gomorrah both featured intense perversity, cruelty, and idolatry. Certainly, in both the Qur'an and the Torah it does specifically mention that the practice of men laying with men to have been specifically forbidden and warned against...but even so, that would have been in accordance with the sharia of the time (which had both different laws and different penalties). The actual cruelties towards the poor and preying upon travelers and causing suffering in others for entertainment are among the chief sins of those cities.

    I certainly think there is evidence that Islam defines marriage heterosexually, and prohibits sexual relations outside of marriage, and contains teachings regarding the preferable nature of heterosexual relations. If, upon earnest and detached investigation, you conclude that homosexual relations are supported as halal, then I shall not insist on my interpretation: I do not speak Arabic, and I am a Baha'i besides, and a straight American, on top of being an anonymous stranger from the internet. You have every reason to take my interpretation with a grain of salt, if not outright skepticism.

    If, however, you concur with that assessment, then you are left with the question of whether or not you believe the Qur'an to be true, based not on the thoughts and opinions of others (myself included) but upon independent investigation of the truth of the matter, and honest and detached meditation. And, considering the warnings and promises of the Qur'an, if it is the truth from God, is it not better to endure even the most grievous of earthly suffering to abstain from those things which God has forbidden, and partake of the blessings which He has promised?

    So first is it true; then, is that what it says; then, what does that mean?

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    Yes peter I get what you said, but when u said that the interpretation were hypocritical and faulty, then is it not really unfair? i know MOST of the people( t some extent including myself) but when this abstain really goes to a physical level thats when things get messy and really painful.............btw i a not talking about marraige, i am rather talking about commitment. Anyways no point arguing really, Alla(swt) alone knows why would He do like this and I have friggin clue bcs i am experiencing gut pains at the moment

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    "Hypocritical and faulty"...I think you may be referencing a separate conversation we've had, my friend. (I suspect it's the topic "IF there was a choice to be straight would you choose to be?" by ramyahmed) where I was talking about the hypocritical Christians who dominate the dialogue with verses from Leviticus (which they do not follow) while their own book says nothing about homosexuality and, contrarily, is quite explicit in forbidding divorcing one spouse (a practice which is ridiculously common.)

    However, on the part about about the physical burden of abstinence...let me tell you right now I completely understand, and I am not innocent of indulging my lust, quite the contrary...I am ashamed to admit I had a slip in this just yesterday!

    The fact is pretty much all men have lusts, and shame, and gnawing physical urges, and perverse thoughts. But our culture in its insanity has determined to shame each other into not talking about it and supporting each other and helping each other through it.

    What's more, people these days don't see a point to it. The spirit of faith has been corrupted and poisoned by pedants and fanatics, imagining themselves to be the upholders of their faith, who drive people away with their delusions of self-importance and superior knowledge. In this day and age, most people are lukewarm participants in the religion they're born into, and in their hearts they really don't see why they should follow their faith.

    I have a tendency to ramble, so I'll cut it short here before I go off on too much of a tangent: if YOU believe in the teachings of Islam on the matter are the authoritative guidance from God, the Knower of All Things, then it's clearly best to follow them. If there is question as to their meaning, it is quite fine to consult others, but don't blindly shackle yourself to their interpretation: investigate independently, use reason, meditate profoundly to determine, with your own spiritual perceptions, the meaning behind the commandments of God.

    And if you should fail, or fall, ask forgiveness and aid from the Almighty. In both Islam and the Baha'i faith God is called "The Most Merciful" or "The All-Merciful". Baha'u'llah has said "Of those who show forth mercy, Thou art the Most Merciful." God understands your struggles, and your frustrations, and your sufferings, and knows your sincere desires: any of us, even the kindest of us, is nowhere near as kind, understanding, compassionate, and merciful as God is. The true fear of God, the kind that is healthy, is that fear of disappointing One who loves you absolutely, and withholding ourselves from that love for the sake of temporary, earthly things.

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      Ah thank you my dear friend, my urges are sometimes probably soo storng and astonishing its like an animal....u dnt even care whoever comes infront of you, you just do it(thinking in the mind)........but its more preferable, thats why i i become confused at times. Trust me I wish I just had ONE partner to be with and thats about it. But man these physical urges really grow everyday!!
      and P.S....I am going to use the term about both us....NAUGHTY!! ( just for some laugh)

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