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Many of us has left the faith because we can and we do it out of rebellion choosing wrong ways to express our anger.

Some have argued that people makes many different versions of interpretation who is to say which is the right one?

To be honest, the space in Islam for LGBT folks is already there, you just need to discover where it is and hold on to faith for u need your faith in your bad times to pass with flying colors.

Do not loose faith....it is a beautiful thing to have an if any one tells you you cannot be gay and muslim.............well POO on their face and simply walk away......he/she will not be responsible for you when you will face Allah..and Allah never breaks His promise. We all will meet Him oneday.

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  • 25-34_m_w_h1_f4
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    im not religious but actually i totally agree there is a place for us in this faith and an understanding between us and God

    • 17-24_m_b_h3_f3
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      I am happy that you think that way. But first veggieburger please visit the newtopic I posted.....its timw we start healing ourselves and be responsible for pur own lives.

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  • religion no islam was never related to homophobia islam is about tolerance and most of Arabic homophobic people are ignorant so don't be upset you a were born that way and god makes not mistakes which means you are beautiful and there is nothing wrong with being gay embrace it don't afraid

    • 17-24_m_w_h3_f3
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      As an atheist I find your comment hilarious because you said islam is about tolerance, even if I was a believer I would never say islam is about tolerance. Do people really not see the weird coincidence that wherever there is islam there is NO gay acceptance or women equality?

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  • 17-24_m_w_h3_f3
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    Hmmmmm where is my comment? why was it removed? Very weird...

    • 17-24_m_b_h3_f3
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      Dear ramy,
      Thank you for your comment. I don't really known which interpretation of Islam you follow nevertheless I will share an idea that I got from a non muslim. The Quran is very bipolar itself. Now does that make it crazy? The Quran has its unique structure so that if you want to interpret to get the most correct meaning you will need to take the whole of Quran into consideration. Many may interpret it wrongly and might have driven away others. Many powerfusl in the
      the society may have used it politically for selfish gains while other just take verses out of context. However if the Quran is properly understood it does not make women unequal to men nor does it condemn Homosexuality. Please provide specific example which you find troublesome and we shall discuss about it in due time.

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    • 17-24_m_w_h3_f3
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      I will give you an example and it's a request to read surat al nisaa, read it with an open mind and don't ignore the bad verses, then tell me it doesn't make women unequal to men or doesn't encourage violence against women.

      I will ask you a question though, if a religion that's supposed to be true and is supposed to be beneficial to societies is actually the cause of the deterioration of those societies, doesnt that make you think? When all the hardship that our societies are going through, the root of it all is religion and islam in particular, doesnt that make you think? I don't care if islam is bipolar and I dont think that looking for the good parts if you're a good person or looking for the bad parts if you're a bad person is an answer, with all due respect it's just a lame excuse I hear all the time that doesnt make any sense. Why is it always islam that is used in such ways to such a degree? why not other religions? Why are so many people so determined to cause violence in the name of islam? always followed by allahu akbar or such, and again it doesn't happen with other religions? You dont see a christian saying jesus christ after beheading a muslim for example, do you?

      I hope I dont offend you or anyone here with what I'm saying, I'm criticizing islam the ideology and not the people.

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    • 17-24_m_b_h3_f3
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      No you have not offended me. Please State the surat AL Nisaa verses and I will get back to you. And my it her suggestion is that you start criticizing the behavior of people rather than the religion itself. The Quran cannot speak on its own. You need human interpretators to interpret it correctly with a critical mind.

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      Edited:
      No you have not offended me. Please state the surat AL Nisaa verses and I will get back to you. And my it will be my second suggestion is that you start criticizing the behavior of people rather than the religion itself. The Quran cannot speak on its own. You need human interpretators to interpret it correctly with a critical mind. Please take all things into consideration.

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    • 17-24_f_w_h3_f4
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      People seem to forget that the Qur'an is a product of a certain society in a certain time period that required certain measures to bring certain peoples into a powerful union.

      It IS a bipolar text, and this is particularly brought by the changes in Muhammad's person. The Madinian verses are strikingly different from the Meccan ones. Whereas the former encouraged tolerance and "لا إكراه في الدين", the latter contains some horrifying verses, propelling spreading Islam by the sword, because it was a time when Muhammad realized that violence was the only way to rid Arabia of its paganism.

      Anyone who is a little versed in the history of Pre-Islam Arabia knows the pagan origins of Islam. And anyone who willingly chooses to look over it is a fucking idiot persistent on keeping the 'purity' of Islam by claiming that it is revolutionary when in reality it collects its materials from several places.

      The thing that propelled Islam wasn't that Arabs actually believed there was a god, despite several people believing so, but the wealth and power it promised those primitive tribes whom lived on milk and dates and wandered the desert. Arabia was a classicist society, and this itself was a power-point for Muhammad who got the poor on his side, to battle the rich Quraysh.

      And this continues to persist until now, in our own societies. Rarely do you ever see people doing something for a profound belief, but because of the power and wealth it promises them. Just like Islam was used as a tool for achieving higher purposes in the past, it's still used like this now.

      When the foundation is rotten, the whole building is gonna collapse.

      And about equality, while Muhammad DID better women's rights, -and that is to his credit-, those changes were very specific to the horrid conditions of Arab women back then. The whole religion is one patriarchal feast, not unlike Judaism and Christianity; those religions were made by men FOR men.

      Those who claim the story of Lot and his people is evidence that God condemns homosexuality need to REALLY think of the story. How can an entire people of two fucking cities be into the same-sex? The whole shit is so fucking illogical. Remember the purpose of old time stories; they teach a lesson to prevent something. When we tell children scary stories, it's to forbid them from going alone in the dark, talking to strangers, avoiding certain people, eating particular foods, and all this to achieve their safety.

      For all we fucking know, Sodom and Gomorrah may have never existed, but their stories are told to achieve a higher purpose that will help the powerful class. Most stories are like that.

      At the end, what I will say is that you don't have to be part of any religion to feel connection to a deity that you believe exists. You CAN believe in a God without being religious, or a member of any religion, to the matter.

      Believe in the God that surrounds the world like an aura and makes it beautiful, not the one who rejects you for your sexual orientation and encourages backward thinking.

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    • 17-24_m_w_h3_f3
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      @SadisBad, it's full of bad verses, but I'll give you a few example to read in ARABIC because some words were changed in english to be more acceptable like نكاح is translate marriage for some reason. Read these verses: 4, 4:6, 4:11, 4:12, 4:14, ((((4:15)))), 4:16, 4:22, 4:25, ((((44))))...

      @Najm, bravo. well fucking put.

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      @SadisBad, and no I wont judge the people and ignore the religion, again it doesnt make any sense. When SO MANY people fall victim to this cult, women in places like saudi arabia or iran, gays, minorities etc. even the people that do the violence are victims imo, because they are doing what true islam told them to do, not the moderate muslims' lovely islam.

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